excluding dupes still showing

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anmac1789
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excluding dupes still showing

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In the below screenshot, thats the original folder properties for the 'files' folder

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In this screenshot, when I tried using the dupe:time values search, the 'files' folder still shows even though, each 'file' folder has a different time-created but the same time-modified and time-accessed value.

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What exactly is happening here?

file(folder 1)
time-created: 2:09:31
time-modified: 2:09:32
time-accessed: 2:09:32

file(folder 2)
time-created: 1:38:34
time-modified: 1:39:52
time-accessed: 1:39:52

I thought the function dupe: is finding 2 or more files with the same property such as for example, time-cr, time-dm, time-da either one of these are all 3 or any combination
vs.

file(folder 1)
time-created: 2:09:32 <---same for all 3 values (time-cr, time-dm, time-da)
time-modified: 2:09:32
time-accessed: 2:09:32

where the dupe:time-cr;time-dm;time-da would find *A* file/folder with the same time properties equal to each other and holding the same value. Am I making a mistake somewhere ?

Is there supposed to be a distinction between finding dupes of properties for individual files/folders vs. finding dupes sharing with another file/folder?
Last edited by void on Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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dupe:time-created;time-modified;time-accessed will find files/folders where another file/folder share the exact same values for all these properties.

If you have two files that share the same time-created and same time-modified, but have a different time-accessed, they are not considered dupes with the above search.

Use dupe:time-created dupe:time-modified dupe:time-accessed to treat properties separately.
However, this will most likely give unexpected results in your case.



Are you expecting name to be included when finding duplicates?
It's really hard to see the issue when you are sorting by name.

Please sort by time-created.

or, include name in your dupe search:

dupe:name;time-created;time-modified
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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void wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:11 am dupe:time-created;time-modified;time-accessed will find files/folders where another file/folder share the exact same values for all these properties.

If you have two files that share the same time-created and same time-modified, but have a different time-accessed, they are not considered dupes with the above search.

Use dupe:time-created dupe:time-modified dupe:time-accessed to treat properties separately.
However, this will most likely give unexpected results in your case.



Are you expecting name to be included when finding duplicates?
It's really hard to see the issue when you are sorting by name.

Please sort by time-created.

or, include name in your dupe search:

dupe:name;time-created;time-modified
No, I am not using name, because dupes can also have a similar filename with a number such as, rocketman.jpg and rocketman (1).jpg. I found something
If you have two files that share the same time-created and same time-modified, but have a different time-accessed, they are not considered dupes with the above search.
Ahhh I see!! so there is something to watch out for!... so it doesn't take into account one file's own time-created and time-modified but it can be the same across 2 files or more...

Example:
file1.jpg
time-created: 2:00:10 pm
time-modified:2:05:12 pm
time-accessed: 5:32:08 pm

file2.jpg
time-created: 2:00:10 pm
time-modified:2:05:12 pm
time-accessed: 7:30:29 pm

So there two files file1.jpg and file2.jpg have the same time-cr, time-dm with each other but individually they are different for each file1.jpg and file2.jpg (taking into different sizes as well because likely two pictures will be different if they have different filenames or different size, in the most extreme case further investigation will need to be made). Am I correct in this reasoning above? I think this is where I overlooked
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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Yes, Everything will compare all three properties on the same file.

Please try searching for just:

dupe:time-created
-or-
dupe:time-modified




If you want to search for dupe:time-created OR dupe:time-modified at the same time, you will need to use filelists:
Search for:
dupe:time-created
Select all results (Ctrl + A)
Copy all filenames (Ctrl + Shift + C)
Search for:
filelist1:
Hold down Ctrl and left click the filelist1: text.
Paste the filenames (Ctrl + V)
Click OK.

Search for:
dupe:time-modified
Select all results (Ctrl + A)
Copy all filenames (Ctrl + Shift + C)
Search for:
filelist2:
Hold down Ctrl and left click the filelist2: text.
Paste the filenames (Ctrl + V)
Click OK.

Search for:
filelist1: | filelist2:

Everything will now show results for dupe:time-created OR dupe:time-modified
Last edited by void on Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Shift key => Ctrl key
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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void wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:00 am Yes, Everything will compare all three properties on the same file.

Please try searching for just:

dupe:time-created
-or-
dupe:time-modified




If you want to search for dupe:time-created OR dupe:time-modified at the same time, you will need to use filelists:
Search for:
dupe:time-created
Select all results (Ctrl + A)
Copy all filenames (Ctrl + Shift + C)
Search for:
filelist1:
Hold down shift and left click the filelist1: text.
Paste the filenames (Ctrl + V)
Click OK.

Search for:
dupe:time-modified
Select all results (Ctrl + A)
Copy all filenames (Ctrl + Shift + C)
Search for:
filelist2:
Hold down shift and left click the filelist2: text.
Paste the filenames (Ctrl + V)
Click OK.

Search for:
filelist1: | filelist2:

Everything will now show results for dupe:time-created OR dupe:time-modified
I did not see "Hold down shift and left click the filelist1: text."
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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Sorry, Ctrl key, not Shift key.

Copy and paste the following into the Everything search box:
filelist1:

While holding down the Ctrl key, left-click the filelist1: text in the Everything search box.
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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do u mean right click ? becuz left click just highlights the word
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

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Please make sure the search box is set to exactly:
filelist1:

If Ctrl+left-clicking on the text is not working, please try pressing F2 in the search box.
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Re: excluding dupes still showing

Post by anmac1789 »

void wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:45 am Please make sure the search box is set to exactly:
filelist1:

If Ctrl+left-clicking on the text is not working, please try pressing F2 in the search box.
Oh okay now it works
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