Updating available disk space / size values automatically?

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Biff
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Updating available disk space / size values automatically?

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Updating available disk space / size values automatically?

"available disk space" property and others do not seem to be updated automatically. How could I Everything make updating them automatically? How could one do it manually, update the "available disk space"?
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Moved to Everything 1.5 forum.

Everything 1.5.0.1331 will automatically update all properties (indexed or unindexed) for root folders when receiving one of the following shell events for the "This PC" folder:
  • SHCNE_MEDIAINSERTED
  • SHCNE_DRIVEADD
  • SHCNE_NETSHARE
  • SHCNE_UPDATEDIR
  • SHCNE_FREESPACE
  • SHCNE_RENAMEFOLDER
Search for root: to list root folders.



Non-root folders and files are not updated automatically.

You will need to press F5 to refresh this information.
If you are indexing this information you will need to select the files/folders and press Ctrl + F5.
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Moved to Everything 1.5 forum.
Oops, sorry!
Everything 1.5.0.1331 will automatically update all properties (indexed or unindexed)...
Okay, seems to be the version I am already using, may be since some weeks, but obviously it does not work here, so what had I to do, if any, to make that work here?
for root folders when receiving one of the following shell events for the "This PC" folder:


SHCNE_MEDIAINSERTED
SHCNE_DRIVEADD
SHCNE_NETSHARE
SHCNE_UPDATEDIR
SHCNE_FREESPACE
SHCNE_RENAMEFOLDER

Search for root: to list root folders.
Sorry, do not understand anything. What does that mean, what do I have to do? Is there a way to make it work the way I am using Everything?
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You will need to press F5 to refresh this information.
So press that now / here(?):
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And why (if the porperties are (re)indexed / updated automatically?)?
You will need to press F5 to refresh this information.
Nothing seems to change. The wrong values are shown further on.

Does Everything show the same free disk space like e.g. the Explorer does?
If you are indexing this information you will need to select the files/folders and press Ctrl + F5.
Only the selected files / folders are updated / (re)indexed? Can one select the folder / drive / index in the folder panel (or does one have to select really all of the files / folders in the right panel?)? I only want to update / (re)indexe the files not being indexed (properties), not the ones the properties already are indexed (lasts quite long).
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What is your B: drive?

This doesn't appear to be an online volume?
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Yes, offline now, 2,5", 1 TB.

Sorry, wasn't intended to show it (B:) selected, didn't noticed that. B: does not matter at the moment for my question(s).
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From memory you are indexing these volume properties.

What is a drive that is not updating the available disk space?

Please try selecting this drive and pressing Ctrl + F5.



Only the selected files/folders in the result list (not the folder sidebar) are rescanned.
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From memory you are indexing these volume properties.
Sorry? I do not understand.
What is a drive that is not updating the available disk space?
I assume, all of the drives.

OK, I just will leave it like it is, I guess, someday i'll get it done.

Thank you very much!
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Does pressing Ctrl + F5 on a selected online drive update the available disk space?
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Oops, holy...just tried again, it completely removes the / these properties from offline drives at least, OK, whatever. What's the point of such?

Very sorry for asking again and my bad understanding. Why press these keys if Everything automatically (re)indexes these properties? What is the difference of pressing F5 and CTRL+F5?
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The next alpha update will ignore offline volumes when reindexing properties with Ctrl + F5.

Did the available disk space size update for the online drives?


Why press these keys if Everything automatically (re)indexes these properties?
Because I am trying to determine if Everything is unable to read available disk space property or if this is an issue with Everything monitoring for changes to root volumes.

I haven't had any luck producing the issue here.



F5 = refresh unindexed information.
CTRL+F5 = refresh indexed information.
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The next alpha update will ignore offline volumes when reindexing properties with Ctrl + F5.
That's great, thank you!
Did the available disk space size update for the online drives?
Sorry. For an external USB drive it did, if I observed correctly. It looks like the (correct) values for an internal SSD / its partitions keep staying the same.

Could available disk space and related properties also be displayed in a column before / behind all files/folders (shown the same value then for the roots)? It would be much mor convenient to not to have to switch to some roots view (each time) or so to get to know the free space, etc. The value (and others) near the indexes in the folder panel would be very great / easy to handle.
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Could one use a bookmark to execute a shortcut, e.g. CTRL+F5 to update the available disk size and others of these kind of properties and automatically select all of the indexes before executing?
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Everything 1.5.0.1333a will now show a progress bar when reindexing properties.

Reindexing properties will now only work on online files/folders.


Could available disk space and related properties also be displayed in a column before / behind all files/folders (shown the same value then for the roots)?
I will consider an option to do this.
Thank you for the suggestion.


Could one use a bookmark to execute a shortcut, e.g. CTRL+F5 to update the available disk size and others of these kind of properties and automatically select all of the indexes before executing?
No.


Did the available disk space size update for the online drives?
For an external USB drive it did, if I observed correctly. It looks like the (correct) values for an internal SSD / its partitions keep staying the same.
I would love to work out why Everything is not automatically updating these properties for you.

Could you please send some debug output:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Start Debug Logging.
  • Copy a largish file to your C: drive (eg: over 100MB)
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
  • The Everything Debug Log will open in Notepad.
  • The log should have a SHCNE event (but it sounds like it is missing)
  • Please save this file to the Desktop and send to support@voidtools.com
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Everything 1.5.0.1333a will now show a progress bar when reindexing properties.
That is nice, thank you very much!
I will consider an option to do this.
Many thanks!
Could you please send some debug output:
Yes, I will try at the next opportunity.
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Is there an interval at which everything updates these properties, e.g. available disk space? If so, how long was it? And could one shorten it? Or does Everything immediately change / adapt these properties when they change on the drive?
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Is there an interval at which everything updates these properties, e.g. available disk space?
If so, how long was it? And could one shorten it?
No, there's no update interval.
Everything receives an event from the system when the free disk space changes for any item listed under "This PC".

Typically the system will send this event immediately.
Subsequent events within one second are usually delayed by one second from the last event.

There's no way to adjust this one-second delay AFAIK.
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OK, so it should be transmitted fast enough in any case.

Thank you.
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