Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

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Shae_Clark
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Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by Shae_Clark »

I have the page count column turned on but it's not showing the count for all the pdf documents, only a few & I can't seem to figure out why because they're in the same location.


Here's what it's showing me. What am I doing wrong??

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void
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by void »

It's likely these PDF files use Cross-reference streams.

Everything doesn't have native support for these yet.

What does the Version property show for these PDF files?
Shae_Clark
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by Shae_Clark »

void wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:34 am What does the Version property show for these PDF files?
Where would I find that?
horst.epp
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by horst.epp »

Shae_Clark wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:51 am
void wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:34 am What does the Version property show for these PDF files?
Where would I find that?
As Void said, in the properties of a file :)
Use the context menu, select Properties and the Details tab.
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by Shae_Clark »

I'm sorry I should've asked what exactly I should be looking for, not necessarily where because when I go there I see this.


These documents show page count...
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& these documents don't show page count..
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horst.epp
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by horst.epp »

Look for the "PDF Specification" entry.
Examples:
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tuska
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

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Short test:

PDF-Version: 1.4 (Acrobat 5.x)
For 40 pdf files with version 1.4, the NUMBER OF PAGES IS DISPLAYED in the ‘Page Count’ column. *)

PDF-Version: 1.6 (Acrobat 7.x)
Out of 53 pdf files with version 1.6, the number of pages is ONLY DISPLAYED FOR 12 PDF FILES. **)

PDF-Version: 1.7 (Acrobat 8.x)
For 58 pdf files with version 1.7, the number of pages in the ‘Page Count’ column is NOT DISPLAYED. ***)

The ‘Page number:’ field is filled in the document properties.
The document properties were viewed in Adobe Acrobat XI Pro - Version 11.0.23.22 (x86).

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I suspect that it also has an influence with which application the pdf document was created.

   *)  PDF-Version: 1.4
       Adobe Acrobat Pro DC 20.12.20041, Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.1.20138, Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.1.20145
       Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.1.20155, HBM E-Paper Plattform.

  **)  PDF-Version: 1.6
       Adobe InDesign CS2 (4.0.5) - here the number of pages is displayed in Everything for 12 PDF files or
       Adobe Acrobat Pro DC 19.10.20064 - here the number of pages is NOT displayed in Everything for 41 PDF files

***)  PDF-Version: 1.7
       Adobe Acrobat Pro DC 19.21.20047, Adobe Acrobat Pro DC 20.12.20048, Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.1.20150,
       Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.7.20091, Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit) 21.7.20102, HBM E-Paper Plattform

- Applications: Without claim to completeness -
Shae_Clark
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by Shae_Clark »

tuska wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:10 pm I suspect that it also has an influence with which application the pdf document was created.
Interesting!! Thanks so much for that information!
Do you know if it's possible or have an idea as to how I would go about updating the documents created in those older versions so they will show the page count in everything?
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

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Shae_Clark wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:47 pm Do you know if it's possible or have an idea as to how I would go about updating the documents
created in those older versions so they will show the page count in everything?
Unfortunately not.

My attempt to save a PDF document with the Adobe Acrobat XI Pro available to me under the same name
or under a new name was unfortunately unsuccessful, i.e. the number of pages was still not displayed in Everything.

In Total Commander, however, there is a plugin (field content: [=xpdfsearch.Number of Pages])
which shows me the number of pages of each PDF file in a 'Custom Columns view'.
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

Post by horst.epp »

tuska wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:09 pm In Total Commander, however, there is a plugin (field content: [=xpdfsearch.Number of Pages])
which shows me the number of pages of each PDF file in a 'Custom Columns view'.
I guess the plugin reads the file and counts the pages if no info is available.
This is not the same as displaying a field of the meta data.
Btw. I use the following settings for this plugin
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tuska
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Re: Page Count Column Doesn't Show Count for all Documents

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horst.epp wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:09 am I guess the plugin reads the file and counts the pages if no info is available.
Possible, but the number of pages is available in the document properties of a PDF file.
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