After the last updating (I left some updates out before) Everything does not work anymore

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Biff
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After the last updating (I left some updates out before) Everything does not work anymore

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After the last updating yesterday (I left some updates out before) Everything (one of the two instances) does not work anymore.

The not working instance shows to index the properties. And when the green bar is disappeard it obviously is not accessible. So I neither can store its database nor close it.

The other instance without custom properties still works.

Is there anything I could do to make it work again?
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Re: After the last updating (I left some updates out before) Everything does not work anymore

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Thank you for the issue report Biff,

Please send a mini crash dump for Everything: Privacy
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Thank you very much Void!

OK. Done. How could I open that 26 MB dmp file / look at its content?

It appears when I open an Everything window during indexing and keep it open after indexing is completed Everything is usable like usual. When closing the window / all Everything windows there is no access anymore. I cannot open a new window or show the context menu of the system tray Everything icon.
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Re: After the last updating (I left some updates out before) Everything does not work anymore

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You'll need a program like visual studio to look at the dmp file.

The dmp file will contain important information like the call stack.
The call stack can be used to work out what Everything is doing.

A mini crash dump should only be a few MB.
If you can, please zip and send this file to support@voidtools.com



Everything 1342 will gather properties from the Windows Property System. (instead of using its built-in Everything property handler)

My guess is there's a shell extension that is stuck gathering a property.

The dmp will help identify the problem shell extension.
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OK, thank you, so it appears not to directly be possible for me to just view its content.

Alright, so maybe I just will leave it as it is, the other instance is still working. And perhaps, if I will make it to keep a window of the main instance always open I maybe can go on using it.

Many thanks!
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To disable the window property system (which might help with stability):
  • In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the Advanced tab on the left.
  • To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
    system
  • Select property_system.
  • Set the value to: false.
  • Click OK.
Please note: Everything will be unable to gather the properties from unknown types without the Windows property system.
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OK, I will try it. Thank you very much!
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Obviously Everything does not close (and save the database) when I click "Exit" in the conetext menu of the system tray icon, this appears when I try to start Everything.
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Pressing "Terminate" does not seem to save the database. Is there another way to save the database / to close Everything?

After removing the file lists from the file list tab it seems to work again.
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Re: After the last updating (I left some updates out before) Everything does not work anymore

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Everything 1.5.0.1350a fixes an issue with indexing small file lists.
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Ah, great, thank you very much!

Is there a big difference in indexing speed if Everything only indexes a single property of the same files instead of multiple? So if you're only indexing one property of the same files anyway, couldn't you index several at once of the same files because it wouldn't take much longer? For example these ones with only the file extensios *.mkv;*.mp4;*.avi;*.iso for all of these properties:
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I just tried, seems to be a huge difference. So maybe each property to be indexed needs the same time independently if there is one or more property indexed of the same file. Is that so?

Can one copy all the file lists in the "File list" tab and paste them to another instance (instead of having to search and add them one by one again in the other instance)?

It appears this (not only the inaccessibility) is fixed as well:
Obviously Everything does not close (and save the database) when I click "Exit" in the conetext menu of the system tray icon, this appears when I try to start Everything.
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Pressing "Terminate" does not seem to save the database. Is there another way to save the database / to close Everything?
Many thanks again!
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Is there a big difference in indexing speed if Everything only indexes a single property of the same files instead of multiple?
There's a little performance hit.
Everything will try to read all properties from the file in one go.
For files where the system can cache file content, this will be very fast.


Can one copy all the file lists in the "File list" tab and paste them to another instance (instead of having to search and add them one by one again in the other instance)?
Not easily.
I'll look into allowing Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V from the filelist options page.

To copy all your file lists:
  • In Everything, from the Help menu, click Troubleshooting information.
  • Scroll down to the bottom and copy the filelists=[...] line. (don't select the Config: prefix)
To set multiple file lists:
  • In your Everything search box, paste the copied filelists=[...] text from above.
  • Prefix the search with a /
  • Your search should look something like:
    /filelists=[{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 1.efu"},{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 2.efu"},{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 3.efu"}]
  • Press ENTER in your search box.
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Many thanks!

So (something like) this / the copied text from above
/filelists=[{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 1.efu"},{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 2.efu"},{"filename":"C:\\File Lists\\example 3.efu"}]
I put in the search field and press ENTER. And then the file lists are added in the "File list" tab?
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Yes.

/filelists= will set your filelists.
Your existing file lists settings will be lost.

Please close the options window before executing this command.
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Your existing file lists settings will be lost.
So it is not possible to add these file list to already available ones in the destination instance. This is what is meant by "settings will be lost". Or are there other settings meant?
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So it is not possible to add these file list to already available ones in the destination instance
It's currently not possible to add multiple filelists to your existing filelists.

You will need to manually re-add each filelist.
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OK, thank you very much!
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