Fails to Re-name Folders ?

[Flourgrader]

Hi Guys,
This problem is not specific to Everything 1.5 1380a (64)
I am using Windows 11 and using Ethernet Network on smb
I have 4 PC and a Dune HD Pro One 8K Plus (Media Player with storage attached)
I have a problem renaming Folders on a network drive attached Dune HD Pro.
I like all my Folder names to be in capital letters.
My problem is converting lower case Folders into upper case Folders
E.G: testfolder > to> TESTFOLDER.
I get this ERROR applet open up in windows 11 when I try to do this'
"The Source and destination filenames are the same"
If I recreated the exact same scenario on one of my other
PC on the network running windows I do not get this message:
"The Source and destination filenames are the same"
It is happy to rename the Folder.
Could anyone please explain how I can fix this problem?
I have tried Everything 1.5, Bulk Renamer and other programs to no avail.
P:S I think the Dune HD Pro used a Linux base O/S ??
Thank you for your assistance.

[NotNull]

On the system where Everything is running, will File Explorer give the same results?

This is likely caused by limitations of the underlying filesystem of the attached storage of your media player.
Filesystems like NTFS do support chnging of capitalization of file-/fodlernames. filesystems like fat32 don't.

[Flourgrader]

@NotNull Thanks for your thoughts.

[Flourgrader]

On the system where Everything is running, will File Explorer give the same results?

Yes it does

[therube]

Maybe a firmware issue with Dune?
https://dune-hd.com/firmware/hdbase3/ & search for "case sensitivity".

[Flourgrader]

@therube, thanks for your opinion therube.
I have the latest updates of Firmware on the "Dune HD Pro One 8K Plus"
I thought it might be Dune at fault.
I have explored all the filing options on Dune.
Hence why I posted in here as I normally
get some really good advice/answers in here.
It is ONLY on the Dune where this is happening!!
I have looked at this as a work around.
TestFolder> rename it to TestFolder1
Which it will do as it is a different name.
Then Rename again TestFolder1 to >TESTFOLDER
Then we have the folder name as I want it!
It does not look like a very satifactory long term solution.
When you might have a 1000 folders to rename?
I could take the Hard Drive out of the Dune
and put it into a windows PC and rename the folders !
Yet again I would prefere to sort the problem out than use work arounds!
Cheers

[therube]

Linux is typically case sensitive.
So you can have both: go & GO in the same directory, & they would be different files.

Can you "go" into Dune itself (like in a shell) & rename a file (or directory)?
What happens if you do that?
ls > dumy
- dumy would be created lowercase
mv dumy DUMY
- what happens with that?


If I try that on Windows, it does not allow the mv (rename):

C:\out\>mv go GO
mv: `go' and `GO' are the same file

C:\out\>mv go GO2, renames the file, capitalized
C:\out\>mv GO2 GO, renames the file back to go, capitalized

[Flourgrader]

@therube
Thanks for the explanation of how Linux filing system works.
Yes, I can go into the filing system and change the names of files and folders with no problems!
I went into Dune and created a folder called
DUMY then tried to create another folder called dumy.
Dune filing system did not like that.
I got the same error message back
as previously said in my posts.
The hard drive in the Dune is formated NTFS
not sure weather that makes any difference or not?
cheers

[void]

Please try renaming to an intermediate folder first.

For example:

testfolder => _TESTFOLDER
_TESTFOLDER => TESTFOLDER



Consider the following Everything search:

\\server\share\ folder:case:regex:[a-z]

Select multiple folders.
Press F2.
Uncheck regular expressions.
Change the old format to:

%1

Change the new format to:

_<uppercase:%1>

Review the new filenames and click OK.

Search for:

\\server\share\ folder:startwith:_

Select multiple folders.
Press F2.
Uncheck regular expressions.
Change the old format to:

_%1

Change the new format to:

%1

Review the new filenames and click OK.

[Flourgrader]

Thank you, David for your suggestions.
I had already tried something similar with
The advanced Rename Option.
It was my first port of call to use Everything
to try to resolve this problem when it started.
I have emailed Tech department at Dune
To see if there are any know problems with
The Filing System / Firmware!
Cheers